Like many people, Tracy Bartram spent a significant part of her high-profile life denying, deflecting, avoiding, role paying and ‘pretending’ her life was great. But it wasn’t. Behind the ‘Tracy Show’; the funny, charismatic, high-energy performer (stand-up comedy, television, radio), was a vulnerable human in all kinds of pain and dysfunction. The first half of this chat is great (typical, back and forth banter) but the second half literally brought me to tears. Like me (and I suspect, you), Tracy is a work in progress and I believe that conversations like this one are crucial, powerful and for some of us, therapeutic and transformational. Enjoy.