This is a fascinating conversation about human optimisation. Specifically, getting ‘better’ as we get older, challenging pre-existing norms and beliefs around physical potential for over forties, life-long learning, skill development, optimal cognitive performance at any age, self-limiting thinking, flow states, behavioural neuroscience and lots more. BIO: Steven Kotler is a New York Times bestselling author, an award-winning journalist, and the Executive Director of the Flow Research Collective. He is one of the world’s leading experts on human performance. He is the author of ten bestsellers (out of fourteen books), including The Art of Impossible, The Future is Faster Than You Think, Stealing Fire, The Rise of Superman, Bold and Abundance. His work has been nominated for two Pulitzer Prizes, translated into over 40 languages, and has appeared in over 100 publications, including the New York Times Magazine, Wired, Atlantic Monthly, Wall Street Journal, TIME, and the Harvard Business Review.