For some people, Pastor Rob Buckingham is not ‘Christian enough’. And more than likely, some of those same people will get mad at him for chatting with the bloke who says fuck. Although Craig commits to a non-swearing Podcast at the start, he only lasts ten minutes. There’s a shock. The boys talk about Rob’s work with Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran (from the ‘Bali Nine’) leading up to their execution in 2015, the Israel Folau controversy, whether or not Christianity has a PR problem, raising kids and being the spiritual coach to over a thousand people (his congregation). And before anyone runs away, he’s definitely not a bible-basher.