This episode with money expert Jason Cunningham was not what either of us expected it to be. It was much better. As much as possible (and is practical) I try not to plan the conversations I have with guests but I guess we both thought we’d talk primarily about money, business, career, etc. We didn’t. What transpired was a deep and philosophical about dealing with hard sh*t (which he has been for the last few years), coming out the other side, the lessons we learn along the way and how we change in the middle of it. Enjoy.